Last year (Feb. 2018) I researched required minimum distributions heavily when helping my mom determine hers for the first time. It was then I learned about times you could be affected by RMDs well before you turn 70 yourself. I then wrote about it to help others who may inherit retirement accounts.
During that process, a big red flag went up for me.
The rest of the story and how we fixed it follows. Starting with a bit of background information to help paint the picture of why you should not make major financial decisions or transactions at times of stress.
A Year+ of Love and Loss
Much of 2013 and 2014 were roller-coaster years for my husband and I. We got married, moved twice, changed jobs, and each lost a parent. John’s mom passed in October 2013 and my father just six months later in April 2014.
From the time of my mother-in-law’s passing to my father’s, my dad was in and out of the hospital multiple times. With us living an hour away from my dad and our workplace (both in different cities also an hour apart) we spent many hours in the car between them all. To say we were experiencing some resulting stress is an understatement.
Plus a Lack of Understanding
You don’t know, what you don’t know.
I was a newbie reader of personal finance blogs in 2013. While I’d learned quite a few things I had no experience with inheritances of any kind let alone inherited IRAs.
So when John inherited a small IRA from his mom, we looked to his family and the financial institution where the IRA was held to help direct us on our options.
At the time, neither of us had the mental bandwidth to tackle any research on our own. And we failed to ask questions or dig into what John ultimately signed up for.
Equals a Big Mistake
John’s non-spousal inherited IRA funds should have been rolled into a new account properly titled as an “Inherited IRA” or “Beneficiary IRA”. We now know the
An adequately titled inherited or beneficiary IRA retains the name of the deceased as well as the name of the new IRA owner as the beneficiary.
If you inherit a traditional IRA from anyone other than your spouse, you can’t treat it as your own. Instead, you need to have the account re-titled. According to IRS Notice 2007-7, the IRA must be “established in a manner that identifies it as an IRA with respect to a deceased individual and also identifies the deceased individual and the beneficiary, for example, ‘Tom Smith as
In John’s case, retitling the existing IRA wasn’t possible because his brother was also receiving some of the funds. So John’s portion went into a new fund.
As a result of all the above, we did not realize John needed to take RMDs – which should have started in 2014, based on his mom’s age.
Because the IRA funds were in John’s name alone and did not include his mom as the original owner, the bank did not send notifications of required distributions since John is well under the age of 70 1/2.
And we were none the wiser until I researched RMDs for my mom and read about inherited IRAs.
Correcting the Error and Missed RMDs
After spending countless hours online researching and communicating with the bank holding the IRA, they admitted they improperly titled the IRA and sufficiently corrected it.
We then set out to take all the missed required minimum distributions and file all the paperwork in hopes of avoiding severe penalties – up to 50% of the missed RMD amount.
Following researched information and this
As advised in the linked article above he took the total distribution in five separate checks, one for each year ’14 – ’18, so we could make a copy of each individual check to send to the IRS with Form 5329 proving he remedied the missed RMDs for the four years.
We don’t know yet if he’ll be paying penalties or not for the missed distributions.
Avoid Our Mistakes
It’s highly probable you may inherit a retirement account from a parent, spouse, other relative, or friend in your lifetime. And you certainly may pass on one to a beneficiary.
Ensure you and they understand the available options and how to handle the funds when the time comes.
Don’t make major financial decisions when you’re under extreme stress. Or when you don’t understand all the rules or implications of your actions.
Don’t assume those you deal with at a financial institution understands all the rules pertaining to your situation. It’s really your responsibility, so do your homework and contact professionals as necessary.
When you realize you’ve missed
Final Thoughts
You don’t know, what you don’t know.
Nor do you know what others don’t know.
That’s why I believe in continual learning and sharing lessons learned with others. I hope our story helps prevent someone else from making a similar mistake and missing the RMDs.
If you did miss taking RMDs don’t panic, you can remedy the mistake. Just know you might face a penalty if you’re found at fault. T
Susan @ FI Ideas says
One thing that crosses my mind is that these RMDs could cause people like us to loose the Obamacare subsidies. We keep our income fairly close to the “line”, so having forced RMDs that are coming in from an inheritance would make that unavoidable. It’s really a head’s up to think about and check with parents to see how much they have in IRAs if you are a beneficiary.
Thanks for a really helpful post. I hope you don’t end up with the penalties. Fingers crossed!
Amy says
Good point, Susan. And yes, we should all talk with our parents and those with kids should ensure they too are informed. Thank you!
Tread Lightly, Retire Early says
RMDs are so freaking confusing. Love that you’re tackling them here.
Amy says
Yes they are! 😉 Thanks!
Fritz @ TheRetirementManifesto says
Ouch! I had no idea, and can easily see how folks could have this happen. Fingers crossed that you’re able to avoid those penalties. Seems unfair, somehow, since the bank is the entity that screwed it up. Buyer (or beneficiary) beware!
Amy says
Thanks, Fritz! Yes, that’s what we are hoping for…that since the bank screwed penalties will be waived. Right, beneficiary beware (in the words of our friend “Me Like”)
GenX FIRE says
Thank you for this post. My wife and I have aging parents, and I was unaware of any of this. Now, I can do some homework so that when these sad events take place we can at least be prepared for this part.
Amy says
Thank so much for the comment. That’s exactly why I wrote the post. I hope you have many more enjoyable years with all the parents before you need to act on the info.
Savvy History says
I know very little about this subject. Even though it doesn’t apply to me yet, I’ve found it’s a good idea for me to find out about such subjects early on so I can toss them around in my thoughts for awhile before having to deal with them inefficiently amongst a lot of other emotions. Thank you for sharing your experience and trying to help others avoid this mistake. I’m sorry the bank didn’t just inform you better in the process!
Amy says
Thank you! Yes, definitely a good idea to at least be aware of some of these things you’ll likely face one day.
Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life says
YIKES! I have no expectation of inheriting anything from anyone so this is definitely one area of knowledge I’d never bothered to fill in – it’s definitely good to know we need to add this information to our Estate Plan for our beneficiaries to do correctly when the time comes, though. Thanks for the write up!
Amy says
Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
Sean Mullaney says
Great post, Amy! This is going to become a big issue for so many, particularly in the financial independence community. I wrote a post about considerations when you inherit a retirement account last October. https://fitaxguy.com/what-to-do-if-you-inherit-an-ira-401k/ Thanks for bringing this issue to the attention of your readers.
Amy says
Thanks, Sean. Appreciate the kind words and link.
Greg says
Great post and a topic that is hard to address for many reasons. One thing I learned from attending, “Taxes in Retirement” seminars (free) is make “ROTH” IRA’s a priority when you are young or old. Avoid Roth IRA conversion fees/taxes down the road. Many financial planners recommend Roth IRA conversions to lower taxes in retirement, but you’ll pay taxes at that time. RMDs are not required for Roth IRAs.
My wife and I max out our Roth IRA contribution early in the year; January for our 2019 contributions. Pay yourself first!
Also, we own a company w/o employees so we now have a Solo 401(k); ours is with Vanguard. It allows us to setup an additional Roth IRA account. Seek advice from a financial adviser for details.
Lastly, we recently hired a financial planner which is a “true fiduciary” (no broker-dealer relationships, fee only services by the hour or package). Well worth the cost for us. We learned so much from him already about social security timing, cash flow in retirement, asset allocation, when to sell rental property, etc.
I posted some info on Taxes in Retirement on my blog last year after attending one of the seminars. For those interested, here’s what I learned: http://www.bossmanjax.com/taxes/taxes-in-retirement/
Again, great points to consider for retirement planning – thanks for posting.